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Eli Lilly and Firm (NYSE:LLY) Q3 2020 Earnings Convention Name December 15, 2020 8:30 AM ET

Firm Contributors

Dave Ricks – Chairman and CEO

Josh Smiley – Chief Monetary Officer

Dan Skovronsky – President of Lilly Analysis Laboratories

Anne White – President of Lilly Oncology

Mike Mason – President of Lilly Diabetes

Jacob Van Naarden – Chief Working Officer Loxo Oncology at Lilly

Ilya Yuffa – President of Lilly Bio-Medicines

Sara Smith – Director of Investor Relations

Convention Name Contributors

Chris Schott – JPMorgan

Tim Anderson – Wolfe Analysis

Andrew Baum – Citi

Terence Flynn – Goldman Sachs

Carter Gould – Barclays

Seamus Fernandez – Guggenheim

Louise Chen – Cantor

Geoff Meacham – Financial institution of America Merrill Lynch

Vamil Divan – Mizuho Securities

Steve Scala – Cowen

Ronny Gal – Bernstein

David Risinger – Morgan Stanley

Greg Gilbert – Truist Safety

Umer Raffat – Evercore ISI


Girls and gents, thanks for standing by and welcome to the Lilly 2021 Steerage Name. Right now, all strains are in a listen-only mode. Later we are going to conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And as a reminder, right this moment’s convention name is being recorded.

I’d now like to show the convention over to Sara Smith. Please go forward.

Sara Smith

Good morning. Thanks for becoming a member of us for Eli Lilly and Firm’s 2021 Monetary Steerage Name. I’m Sara Smith, Director of Investor Relations. Becoming a member of me on right this moment’s name are Dave Ricks, Lilly’s Chairman and CEO; Josh Smiley, Chief Monetary Officer; Dr. Dan Skovronsky, President of Lilly Analysis Laboratories; Anne White, President of Lilly Oncology; Ilya Yuffa, President of Lilly Bio-Medicines; Mike Mason, President of Lilly Diabetes; and Jake Van Naarden, Chief Working Officer Loxo Oncology at Lilly. We’re additionally joined by Lauren Zierke of the Investor Relations crew.

Throughout this convention name we anticipate making projections and forward-looking statements primarily based on our present expectations. Our precise outcomes might differ materially attributable to plenty of components, together with these famous on Slide 3. Extra info regarding components that would trigger precise outcomes to vary materially is contained in our newest kind 10-Okay and subsequent Kinds 10-Q and 8-Ks filed with the Securities and Alternate Fee.

The knowledge we offer about our merchandise and pipeline is for the advantage of the funding neighborhood. It was not supposed to be promotional and isn’t enough for prescribing choices. As we transition to our ready remarks, I’ll reminder that our commentary will concentrate on non-GAAP monetary measures.

Now, I’ll flip the decision over to Dave for some introductory feedback.

Dave Ricks

Thanks, Sara. 2020 has been a robust 12 months for Eli Lilly and Firm, however maybe for various causes than we might have imagined in 2019. Right now final 12 months, we shared our monetary steerage for 2020, unaware as you have been of the approaching pandemic that might grip the globe and problem us in unprecedented methods. Our scientists have been within the lab working in the direction of the following discovery, gross sales reps within the area promoting their merchandise, our company headquarters was stuffed with workers and our manufacturing crops have been producing the medicines that over 40 million sufferers rely upon annually.

However inside months, that each one modified, how we labored, the place we labored, even in some instances what we have been engaged on. However what by no means modified and what hasn’t modified for the previous 144 years is Eli Lilly and Firm’s unwavering dedication to combining caring with scientific and medical experience to ship innovation that makes life higher for folks all over the world.

A 12 months later, we have seen that goal proceed to play out in new methods as we stepped up and responded by investing our time and our sources in danger to repurpose present medicines and develop new ones that may make a distinction within the effort to fight the COVID-19 pandemic. We work tirelessly, and we have been privileged to ship the primary design for COVID remedy for sufferers to handle this world pandemic.

Whereas we have been doing all this to struggle the virus, and regardless of the various challenges introduced on by the COVID-19 pandemic, we proceed to do what we do. Progress our pipeline and ship innovation that makes a distinction for sufferers. Our enterprise and our folks show responsive and resilient in 2020.

As you possibly can see, on Slide 4, we exit the 12 months with elevated confidence in our long-term outlook. Because of plenty of optimistic, top quality pipeline occasions all year long. Trulicity and Jardiance, market leaders within the two quickest rising courses in diabetes delivered catalysts for future development with the addition of the REWIND cardiovascular consequence examine to the Trulicity label, approval of extra doses for Trulicity and a optimistic readout and submission of Jardiance for coronary heart failure within the HFrEF inhabitants, its first indication exterior of diabetes.

Verzenio affirmed its differentiation from the remainder of the category with a optimistic readout in excessive danger HR optimistic HER2-negative early breast most cancers and exits 2020 with important momentum, having elevated its [indiscernible] model share market by greater than 10 factors to over 30%. Taltz, Cyramza, Olumiant all had optimistic NILEX approvals as effectively this 12 months.

We acquired approvals for after which launched Retevmo, our first-in-class RET inhibitor, and Lyumjev, an extremely speedy insulin persevering with a sustained interval of R&D productiveness which have seen Lilly launch 15 medicines since 2014. This 12 months additionally present a optimistic Section 3 readouts from mirikizumab in psoriasis. And we look ahead to the upcoming readout in ulcerative colitis in 2021. As well as, we shared thrilling knowledge readouts this month for LOXO-305 and tirzepatide, which Dan will cowl additional in his R&D replace.

In 2020, we additionally added lebrikizumab to our Section 3 portfolio from our acquisition of Dermira. On high of all this, we acquired emergency use authorizations for bamlanivimab and baricitinib to handle the COVID-19 pandemic. We labored exhausting collectively and fulfilled our goal as an organization in what has been amongst our best hours in some ways. We’re significantly pleased with the great pipeline progress we made this 12 months amidst the various obstacles in our path, underscoring our potential to take care of a protracted interval of productiveness and development by launching new medicines.

Now I am going to flip the decision over to Josh to offer the small print of our 2021 monetary steerage.

Josh Smiley

Thanks, Dave, and good morning, everybody. As we stroll by our 2021 steerage, we are going to present a line of sight for the affect of our COVID-19 therapies. We acknowledge that in contrast to a typical new product for Lilly, there’s a a lot broader vary of potential near-term income outcomes for these therapies. As we transfer by 2021, we’ll be clear on their affect on the revenue assertion every quarter and supply buyers with perception into the efficiency of our underlying enterprise.

So transferring to Slide 5, you may see a excessive degree abstract of our 2021 steerage using our strategic deliverables framework. Regardless of continued world pricing headwinds and challenges from the COVID-19 pandemic, we anticipate robust double-digit income development in 2021 pushed by quantity development of our key development merchandise which we anticipate will make up over 60% of our worldwide income.

We additionally plan to additional develop margins in our base enterprise delivering non-GAAP working margin of roughly 32% in 2021. We anticipate robust high line development mixed with disciplined SG&A administration to generate roughly 200 foundation level enchancment over 2020. As we proceed to hurry life altering medicines to sufferers, potential pipeline highlights for the 12 months embrace: regulatory motion for Verzenio for top danger HR optimistic HER2-negative early breast most cancers; Jardiance for coronary heart failure with lowered ejection fraction in collaboration with Boehringer Ingelheim; and tanezumab from average to extreme osteoarthritis ache in collaboration with Pfizer.

Extra readouts from and potential submission for Tirzepatide’s Section 3 SURPASS Kind 2 diabetes program; Section 3 readouts in immunology for baricitinib, lebrikizumab and mirikizumab; Section 2 knowledge from Alzheimer’s trials for donanemab and zagotenemab and a number of potential proof-of-concept research from our early stage portfolios in immunology, neuroscience, diabetes and oncology.

A strong outlook will ship robust money circulate, which we are going to proceed to deploy thoughtfully throughout our capital allocation priorities. We stay centered on funding our present marketed merchandise, new launches, lifecycle alternatives and replenishing our pipeline. We’ll proceed to leverage bolt on acquisitions and licensing alternatives to reinforce our future development prospects with exterior innovation as demonstrated this morning with our introduced acquisition of Prevail Therapeutics.

We’ll improve the dividend by 15% for a 3rd consecutive 12 months, reflecting our robust efficiency in 2020 and our conviction and our development outlook within the years forward. This dividend improve nonetheless leaves ample capability for enterprise improvement alternatives. Along with investing in enterprise improvement alternatives to boost our pipeline and long-term development prospects and funding the dividend, we anticipate to proceed to return extra money to shareholders by way of share repurchases, whereas sustaining robust funding grade rankings.

In complete, we anticipate 2021 to be one other thrilling 12 months characterised by strong high line development and margin enlargement, whereas we proceed to progress and improve our pipeline amidst robust working and monetary efficiency.

Transferring to Slide 6, you possibly can see plenty of components which can affect our 2021 monetary outcomes. Whereas we skilled suppressed demand because of the pandemic in 2020, and anticipate the impacts from the current surges in COVID-19 instances to persist into the primary half of 2021, we do anticipate the authorization of COVID vaccines to assist spur the return to close normalcy of well being care methods within the second half of 2021. And new remedy begins might obtain their pre-COVID baseline in these therapeutic courses, which haven’t reverted to these pre-COVID ranges already. With that context, we anticipate enterprise efficiency to strengthen by the 12 months in 2021.

Towards that backdrop, the profitable business execution of key development drivers is anticipated to ship important income development as our new merchandise proceed to scale, together with Trulicity, Taltz, Verzenio, Jardiance, Olumiant, Cyramza, Emgality, Tyvyt, and Retevmo. We’re additionally happy that maintained or improved entry in the usacross all of those development merchandise.

For Trulicity, we started the 12 months with injectable GLP-1 class development in the usnear 30%. However the pandemic has muted new sufferers begins leading to class development slowing to the excessive teenagers as we shut 2020. We have seen acceleration of recent affected person begins although in current weeks. Whereas they continue to be mildly beneath pre-COVID baselines, we anticipate the momentum to proceed and translate to a reacceleration of market development in 2021. As the category accelerates, we anticipate excellent entry and powerful share market to be augmented by the complete 12 months affect of the REWIND cardiovascular outcomes label replace and extra doses.

For Taltz, we’re happy with the entry win at ESI [ph] and the elevated quantity that can drive extra development for this medication starting subsequent 12 months. Taltz also needs to profit from the complete 12 months affect of the Non-Radiographic Axial Spondyloarthritis indication as we — axSpA, as we proceed to enhance our efficiency in rheumatology and proceed our robust efficiency in dermatology. New affected person begins in immunology market stay about 15% beneath COVID — pre COVID baselines, however have seen constant development over the previous a number of weeks and we anticipate this development to proceed in 2021.

For Verzenio, the optimistic excessive danger HR optimistic HER2 unfavourable early breast most cancers readout has offered additional help for presenting these differentiation within the CDK4/6 inhibitor class and we’re excited by the wonderful momentum we’re seeing in new to model market share previously few months, clearing 30% in the usand 50% in Japan. We have additionally seen a robust restoration within the CDK4/6 class as new affected person begins have returned near pre-COVID ranges. We search for that momentum to proceed in 2021, additional strengthened by the potential approval and launch of Verzenio in China.

Jardiance in collaboration with Boehringer Ingelheim, added over 5 share factors in 2020 because it nears 60% share of market in a category that’s delivering strong development. New affected person begins within the SGLT2 class have largely returned to pre-COVID baselines, which we anticipate will result in additional acceleration of the SGLT2 class in 2021. We imagine there stays important development alternative in Kind 2 diabetes, whereas persistent coronary heart failure and persistent kidney illness might introduce massive populations of extra sufferers who may benefit from Jardiance.

Emgality income has greater than doubled by the primary 9 months of 2020 with script development outpacing the category within the U.S. This strong development is regardless of the injectable CGRP class experiencing better headwinds than many different courses through the pandemic. New affected person begins within the CGRP antibody market remained roughly 10% beneath pre-COVID baseline. However as this affect subsides, we anticipate stronger class development and continued power from Emgality gross sales in 2021.

All collectively, we anticipate our key development merchandise launched since 2014 will characterize over 60% of our 2021 base enterprise income, which excludes potential income from COVID-19 therapies. We imagine the scaling of those newer merchandise exterior the uswill be a significant contributor to our development.

Olumiant continues its robust development trajectory exterior the usand will profit from the current approval of the atopic dermatitis indication in Europe. Tyvyt gross sales in China have greater than doubled for September year-to-date and we anticipate Tyvyt will proceed to drive development in China in 2021. Along with the potential approval and launch of Verzenio famous earlier, we look ahead to continued development from Trulicity, Jardiance, Olumiant and Taltz in China as these merchandise proceed to scale.

We anticipate a average tailwind because of our resolution to implement a restricted distribution program for 340b within the U.S. At current, we anticipate a good thing about roughly 2 to three proportion factors on U.S worth in 2021, primarily in our diabetes enterprise, however we are going to monitor developments all year long and modify accordingly.

As you all know payer combine has been an space of accelerating variability over the previous few years and we do anticipate that to proceed in 2021. Whereas that is our estimate at the moment, we anticipate total affect of pricing throughout the mixture of 340b, Medicaid DoD, VA and different authorities segments to shift all year long. As well as, the brand new 12 months we’ll see the sundown of the unfavourable affect on year-over-year development from the revision of our alliance with Boehringer Ingelheim with the portion of Tradjenta income booked by Lilly down over 40% within the first three quarters of 2020.

And eventually, we anticipate continued productiveness positive aspects as we understand efficiencies from each the utilization of our present business footprint to launch new medicines and scale at present marketed ones, in addition to from acceleration of digital capabilities and different learnings from navigating the pandemic. When it comes to headwinds, as I discussed, we anticipate continued demand impacts from the rising surges in COVID-19 instances to persist into the primary half of 2021.

We additionally anticipate a continuation of the pricing developments that we have skilled in recent times, with mid single-digit web worth declines globally in 2021. As we break that down throughout the particular areas, for the U.S., we proceed to anticipate mid single-digit web worth declines as an underlying development, pushed by elevated rebates to take care of glorious entry in addition to section combine, and partially offset by modest listing worth will increase.

With the affect from 340b talked about earlier, we might anticipate this to translate to low to mid single-digit worth declines for 2021. This outlook consists of as we famous on our Q3 earnings name roughly $100 million to $200 million of affect in 2021 from the impact of elevated U.S unemployment on section combine. There stays important dialogue in Washington concerning potential well being care reform, and we intend to actively have interaction with the brand new administration and Congress on growing options, which improve affected person entry and cut back out of pocket prices.

We’re not factoring any extra well being care reform into our 2021 steerage at current, and we’ll replace steerage on our quarterly earnings requires any basic adjustments. Relating to particular U.S product degree worth gadgets, I’d be aware that Taltz will expertise a bigger pricing headwinds in our expectations for the full U.S portfolio in 2021 because of the elevated entry win at ESI. Over time, this worth decline must be greater than offset by strong quantity will increase.

For Trulicity, we famous on our Q3 name our expectation of excessive single-digit worth declines in the usmoving ahead. That underlying development is pushed by section combine and elevated charges to take care of glorious and open entry partially offset by modest listing worth will increase. Nevertheless, in 2021, the affect of 340b on worth developments will probably average Trulicity’s underlying excessive single-digit decline in the usto low single digits.

Transferring to Japan, we anticipate a low single-digit worth decline pushed by the affect of worth cuts within the first half of 2021 for older legacy merchandise. We anticipate a mid single-digit worth decline in Europe in step with historic developments. In China, we anticipate a double-digit worth decline, though decrease than what we have skilled this 12 months, which was pushed by Tyvyt’s placement on the NRDL.

We do anticipate the inclusion of a number of new merchandise to the 2021 NRDL in China. Nevertheless, we anticipate quantity positive aspects to greater than offset the value decline. Whereas we proceed to see worth competitors in our therapeutic areas, we anticipate to take care of good entry for our portfolio at cheap costs in 2021, and we’ll proceed to concentrate on quantity pushed income development.

Relating to lack of patent exclusivity, we anticipate generic competitors as [indiscernible] patent in Europe and Japan, in addition to for Cymbalta in Japan. Since Forteo loss world exclusivity in 2019, we have seen continued erosion from aggressive stress and growing generic competitors this 12 months, and we anticipate that development to proceed in 2021. In complete, we anticipate a gather — a collective lack of exclusivity headwind of roughly $700 million subsequent 12 months. This compares to a mean annual headwind from LOEs of roughly $1 billion between 2018 and 2020.

Lastly, we are going to see elevated R&D expense pushed by investments in key late stage property together with LAXO-305, with the initiation of a big Section 3 program tirzepatide with extra Section 3 trials beginning up for the SURMOUNT weight problems program and the complete 12 months affect of the Kind 2 diabetes cardiovascular outcomes examine, and lebrikizumab as we proceed to scale up Section 3 atopic dermatitis program.

Okay with that background, we’ll transfer to Slide 7 the place we offered an up to date view of 2020 steerage. For 2020, we have elevated the income vary to $24.2 billion to $24.7 billion, pushed by the expectation of elevated bamlanivimab gross sales attributable to a further buy settlement with the usgovernment introduced in early December. Whereas we imagine we’re more likely to be within the low to center a part of that vary, that can rely upon bamlanivimab cargo in late December.

As we mentioned in October, our enterprise — our base enterprise continues to expertise some impacts from COVID, and in current weeks year-over-year, U.S complete pharmaceutical script development has eroded once more, as we see rising affect from the rising surge in COVID-19 instances. Whereas we see restoration in new to model and complete prescriptions in key markets all over the world, we nonetheless have not achieved regular state development in key segments like GLP-1s, migraine, dermatology or rheumatology.

Transferring down the revenue assertion we anticipate bamlanivimab gross sales to have a barely dilutive affect of roughly 100 foundation factors on non-GAAP gross margin p.c and a barely accretive affect of roughly 100 foundation factors on non-GAAP working margin, protecting in thoughts that we might already offered $400 million of COVID remedy R&D expense in our prior 2020 steerage. Our GAAP margins stay unchanged.

For R&D expense, whereas our vary stays unchanged, we’re seeing accelerating COVID-19 remedy improvement spend that’s more likely to drive us to the excessive finish of that vary. [Indiscernible] we have elevated the vary to replicate our projection of additional fairness funding positive aspects within the fourth quarter. Although market valuations can fluctuate considerably between now and the tip of the 12 months, we might exceed our steerage vary primarily based on current valuations. These adjustments in complete translate to an elevated EPS vary of $7.45 to $7.65 per share for non-GAAP and $6.28 per share to $6.48 per share for GAAP.

As we introduced throughout our third quarter earnings name, starting in 2021, we are going to exclude the positive aspects and losses on investments in fairness securities from our non-GAAP measures. In anticipation of this variation, we have now posted a revised investor workbook to allow clear line of sight to the affect of eradicating this from non-GAAP for 2019 and the primary 9 months of 2020.

As a reminder, after we report our outcomes for This fall earnings in January, our 2020 non GAAP financials will nonetheless replicate earnings inclusive of fairness funding positive aspects and losses. As well as, on Friday, we replicate what our up to date 2020 steerage appears like after we exclude the affect of fairness funding positive aspects from non-GAAP OID and non-GAAP EPS in an effort to assist with an apples-to-apples comparability with our 2021 Information.

So transferring to Slide 9, you will notice our preliminary 2021 steerage and 2020 steerage with the removing of fairness funding positive aspects from OID and EPS. Okay, stepping by the varied strains of our 2021 steerage, income is anticipated to be between $26.5 billion and $28 billion. Utilizing the midpoint of the 2020 and 2021 ranges, this represents roughly 11% development and features a small uplift from international change.

Our 2021 development is anticipated to be pushed fully by quantity greater than compensating for worth headwinds. This vary consists of roughly $1 billion to $2 billion of income from COVID therapies in 2021, which interprets then to roughly 10% development for the underlying enterprise.

Transferring down the revenue assertion, we anticipate gross margin as a p.c of income to be unchanged year-over-year at roughly 79% on a non-GAAP foundation, reflecting roughly 100 foundation factors of dilution from COVID-19 therapies to our base enterprise, together with the royalties we pay to companions. On a reported foundation, we anticipate gross margin as a p.c of income to be roughly 77%, with a lower pushed by elevated amortization of intangibles in 2021.

Advertising and marketing, promoting and administrative expense is anticipated to be within the vary of $6.2 billion to $6.4 billion, with a modest improve pushed by advertising and marketing investments in key merchandise as we understand efficiencies from the utilization of our present business footprint and speed up digital capabilities and different learnings from navigating the pandemic.

Analysis and improvement expense is anticipated to be within the vary of $6.5 billion to $6.7 billion. This consists of roughly $300 million to $400 million of continued funding in COVID-19 therapies. Internet of COVID-19 remedy investments in each 2020 and 2021, we do anticipate a double-digit improve in R&D pushed by elevated Section 3 spend for tirzepatide, lebrikizumab, [indiscernible], mirikizumab and the initiation of LOXO-305 Section 3 program. We proceed to be excited concerning the alternatives to create significant worth with every of those molecules and are investing accordingly.

Our 2021 steerage implies a rise of about 200 foundation factors in non-GAAP working margin as a p.c of income to roughly 32%, a robust high line development and prudent SG&A administration drives continued margin enlargement and the affect of COVID-19 therapies on our 2021 working margin is essentially impartial.

On a reported non-GAAP foundation, different revenue and expense is anticipated to be between $200 million and $300 million of expense. As a reminder non-GAAP OID will exclude the affect of fairness funding positive aspects and losses starting in 2021,and on a reported foundation, the vary doesn’t embrace any expectations for funding positive aspects or losses subsequent 12 months.

Turning to taxes, we anticipate our GAAP and non-GAAP efficient tax fee to be roughly 15%, which assumes the present U.S tax construction is in place by all of 2021. This improve of roughly 1 proportion level from 2020 consists of the affect of COVID-19 therapies. Earnings per share is anticipated to be within the vary of $7.75 per share to $8.40 per share on a non-GAAP foundation.

The estimated affect for COVID-19 therapies is a broad vary of $0.30 to $0.75 per share. Adjusting for that affect the anticipated non-GAAP EPS efficiency represents robust double-digit development over 2020 and comes on high of robust efficiency in 2020. Our GAAP EPS is anticipated to be within the vary of $7.25 per share to $7.90 per share.

To your modeling functions, we’re at present estimating diluted weighted common shares excellent for 2021 to be roughly 906 million, a slight discount from the roughly 912 million for 2020. This quantity might change as a perform of the quantity of capital we deploy to exterior innovation investments versus share repurchases.

There are two impacts on the primary quarter of 2021 we might level out. First, whereas the entry win for Taltz ESI ought to present a really optimistic affect on quantity development, the rebates we offer will affect not solely the brand new ESI enterprise, but additionally income from sufferers who’re already using Taltz by way of prior authorizations and different exceptions.

Second, given the numerous affect of the COVID-19 stocking profit we skilled within the first quarter of 2020, we anticipate income development and working margin enlargement shall be muted within the first quarter, with high line development and margin enlargement accelerating all year long. Slide 10 reveals the affect of amortization of intangibles to reach at our 2021 non-GAAP steerage.

We’re happy with our efficiency in a difficult 12 months in 2020 with our steerage for 2021 and 1-year after we outlined our excessive degree outlook by 2025, we’re more and more assured in our potential to ship high tier income development and working margin p.c enlargement within the mid to excessive 30s throughout this timeframe.

Now I am going to flip the decision over to Dan to spotlight our continued R&D progress.

Dan Skovronsky

Thanks, Josh. I am happy that bamlanivimab is now out there for sufferers with greater than 250,000 doses distributed all through america to most hospitals and different well being care services. Bamlanivimab can be approved to be used with rising availability in a number of extra nations in North America, Europe and the Center East, and we’re enthusiastic about our alternative to probably assist folks affected by COVID-19 all over the world.

I am additionally inspired that this 12 months, regardless of the affect of pandemic on scientific trials, and our resolution to allocate important sources to our efforts on COVID-19 therapies, we did not waver in our dedication to all the opposite illnesses we struggle, and we did not gradual our progress. As Dave summarized, we have had a particularly productive 12 months with many important optimistic occasions and knowledge disclosures.

Prior to now weeks, we have shared thrilling knowledge on two of our key property, LOXO-305 and tirzepatide. At ASH, we introduced vital knowledge for LOXO-305, our oral extremely selective, non-covalent BTK inhibitor in persistent lymphocytic leukaemia, small lymphocytic lymphoma, mantle cell lymphoma, and different Non-Hodgkin’s lymphomas.

As we handled extra sufferers in this system and comply with them for longer, our pleasure has solely grown and we predict this drug has the potential to be very significant for sufferers. Our authentic speculation for LOXO-305 was ship a drug that was centered on BTK with C481 S acquired resistance mutation. We have been delighted to see that speculation develop since LOXO-305 getting into the clinic, producing responses in sufferers no matter BTK mutation standing and no matter prior remedy, underscoring our enthusiasm for this asset to probably affect a much wider affected person inhabitants that initially envisioned.

The covalent BTK inhibitors have reworked the remedy paradigms for sufferers with B cell leukemias and lymphomas. In consequence, tens of 1000’s of sufferers at present obtain these medicine. Nevertheless, as soon as sufferers relapsed on these brokers, the therapeutic choices provide both weak danger profit or complicated administration. We imagine LOXO-305 could grow to be an vital new therapeutic choice for these sufferers.

As of the September 27 knowledge cutoff date, 323 sufferers have been enrolled within the BRUIN examine, and efficacy knowledge for 269 of those sufferers have been evaluable. This included all sufferers who had at the very least one response evaluation, in addition to any sufferers who discontinued previous to a primary response evaluation.

On Slide 11, you possibly can see the efficacy knowledge from LOXO-305 in CLL/SLL. These sufferers have acquired a median of three prior strains of remedy and LOXO-305 confirmed an total response fee of 63% in 139 sufferers. Importantly, as has been noticed with the covalent BTK inhibitors, the general response fee elevated as sufferers have been adopted longer.

As BRUIN stays an actively accruing trial, our ORR level estimate and any second in time doesn’t replicate the potential ORR as soon as all sufferers are adopted for a lot of months. Notably at this knowledge cutoff, the ORR was 86% in sufferers who have been adopted for 10 or extra months.

In CLL/SLL sufferers, the general response fee was constant whatever the motive for prior BTK discontinuation, BTK mutation standing, or different courses of prior remedy acquired. We noticed comparable exercise even in sufferers handled with all courses of obtainable remedy, chemo immunotherapy, BTK, PI3 kinase and venetoclax. As the info reduce off 94% of the responding CLL/SLL sufferers remained on remedy, and the longest adopted responding affected person continued on remedy at almost 18 months.

Transferring to Slide 12. You may see knowledge from LOXO-305 and mantle cell lymphoma, which reveals an total response fee of 52% in 56 sufferers, together with 14 full responses. Enrolled sufferers with MCL had acquired a median of three prior strains of remedy and almost all sufferers had acquired prior chemo immunotherapy and BTK inhibitor. The sturdy responses in BTK pretreated MCL are significantly notable on this affected person inhabitants, given poor outcomes with present therapeutic choices.

As of September 27, 83% of responding sufferers stay in response in dwelling remedy. You will need to be aware that exterior of the putting total response charges noticed in CLL and MCL, LOXO-305 additionally confirmed rising efficacy in sufferers with Waldenström’s macroglobulinemia and different non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

Up to now, we have been happy with the protection profile noticed for LOXO-305. Throughout all sufferers handled just one.5% of sufferers have discontinued attributable to remedy associated hostile occasions. We have not noticed any dose limiting toxicities, and a most tolerated dose has not been recognized. We additionally pay shut consideration to hostile occasions regularly related to the covalent BTK inhibitors and thus far have not often seen them happen.

Given the spectacular outcomes generated with LOXO-305, we have designed a strong Section 3 improvement program to start in 2021 as proven on Slide 13. The numerous unmet medical want exists in CLL and MCL and our improvement plan will concentrate on establishing LOXO-305 as the popular agent for sufferers with relapsed illness following a covalent BTK inhibitor, and we’ll additionally embrace a face to face superiority trial evaluating LOXO-305 to ibrutinib in first line CLL.

In 2021, we plan to provoke 4 world scientific research, three in CLL and one in MCL. In CLL, we’re making ready to start two scientific trials in BTK pretreated sufferers. One will examine LOXO-305 as steady monotherapy versus the investigators alternative of idelalisib plus rituximab or bendamustine plus rituximab.

The second trial with examine LOXO-305 in a 2-year time restricted routine added to the [technical difficulty] routine studied within the [indiscernible] trial. These two trials are anticipated to begin within the first half of 2021. The primary line head-to-head examine of LOXO-305 in CLL is anticipated to begin later in 2021. In MCL, we plan to provoke a head-to-head Section 3 trial of LOXO-305 versus investigators alternative of covalent BTK inhibitor in relapsed refractory sufferers in early 2021.

Whereas we’re very inspired by these knowledge, and plan to debate the potential for accelerated approval, NDA submission with the FDA within the second half of 2021, we acknowledge that single-arm accelerated approvals for hematologic malignancies may be fairly difficult, and would require additional dialogue with regulators earlier than we are able to decide to submission or timing. We look ahead to launching our Section 3 program and are excited concerning the alternative with LOXO-305 and the potential advantages for sufferers throughout plenty of indications.

Transferring to tirzepatide. We’re delighted to proceed to construct on our almost 100-year heritage of delivering innovation for folks dwelling with diabetes, with the primary Section 3 readout for our GIP/GLP-1 receptor agonist.

Transferring to Slide 14. As we famous in our Investor Name final month, we deliberately designed the SURPASS program to enroll a broad vary of sufferers dwelling with Kind 2 diabetes to exhibit the optimistic affect we imagine tirzepatide can have in treating sufferers with diabetes. Given the variations in baseline traits throughout research, it is cheap to anticipate variations within the hemoglobin A1c and weight advantages noticed with tirzepatide at key endpoints.

As you possibly can see, SURPASS-1 examined tirzepatide in an earlier stage diabetic inhabitants that had no oral anti-diabetic remedy for the three months previous to the primary go to, in addition to during the trial, and have been naive to injectable remedy. We’re excited with the outcomes from SURPASS-1. It was a terrific begin for the SURPASS program with robust efficacy throughout all three doses and we look ahead to seeing leads to people who find themselves later of their course of diabetes within the upcoming readouts from the SURPASS program.

On Slide 15, you possibly can see the outcomes for change in hemoglobin A1c and physique weight at 40 weeks. The examine contributors having a comparatively quick imply period of diabetes, and over half being remedy naive, we’re excited by these preliminary outcomes from the SURPASS program. The robust efficiency by the decrease doses are significantly related on this earlier stage affected person inhabitants.

Within the evaluation for the efficacy estimate, tirzepatide confirmed a statistically important discount in hemoglobin A1c in comparison with placebo throughout the 5, 10 and 15 milligram doses with the 15 milligram dose reaching a discount of two.07%. Along with the numerous enchancment in hemoglobin A1c, we additionally noticed spectacular reductions in physique weight. Tirzepatide demonstrated dose dependent response on weight reduction with sufferers on the 15 milligram arm dropping 9.5 kilograms or 11% of their physique weight.

Transferring to Slide 16. Tirzepatide additionally enabled almost 90% of sufferers throughout all three doses to attain hemoglobin A1c of lower than 7%, which is the American Diabetes Affiliation advisable hemoglobin A1c goal for folks with Kind 2 diabetes. Moreover, over 50% of sufferers on this 15 milligram tirzepatide arm chief hemoglobin A1c beneath 5.7%, a mark of glucose degree seen in folks with out Kind 2 diabetes.

We imagine that is an unprecedented discovering on an vital new measure to evaluate the affect of diabetes medicines. The 5 and 10 milligram doses noticed over 30% of sufferers obtain this degree of HbA1c goal. We’re inspired that these important enhancements in glucose ranges have been achieved with no occasions of extreme hypoglycemia or hyperglycemia lower than 54 milligram per deciliter.

At present, Kind 2 diabetes is essentially a deal with to fail illness. With these outcomes, maybe tirzepatide, if permitted, might present choices for physicians treating sufferers who’re earlier of their diabetes course, probably serving to them obtain regular glucose ranges.

Transferring to Slide 17. The general security profile was just like the effectively established GLP-1 receptor agonist class. And probably the most generally reported hostile occasions have been GI associated and delicate to average in severity. We’re very inspired by this preliminary take a look at the potential affect of the brand new stepwise dose escalation schedule, beginning with a low dose of two.5 milligram that we carried out for our Section 3 program, and the way it could have contributed to enhance tolerability for sufferers.

Remedy discontinuation attributable to hostile occasions have been lower than 7% in every dose arm. As well as, with the acknowledged limitations of cross trial comparisons, the charges of nausea, diarrhea and vomiting confirmed encouraging enhancements throughout all three doses. With the 15 milligram remedy arm displaying a significant enchancment as in comparison with the Section 2b examine.

We look ahead to monitoring the potential affect of the brand new dose escalation schedule as we get additional readouts from the SURPASS program. We shared within the press launch additionally the full remedy discontinuation charges throughout all arms. The remedy discontinuation charges for SURPASS-1 have been in step with charges we sometimes noticed in GLP-1 trials.

We famous the 15 milligram and placebo arm — arms had extra remedy discontinuation than the opposite arms, and {that a} majority of the discontinuations have been attributable to causes apart from hostile occasions. There are a variety of causes {that a} affected person could discontinue in a trial past hostile occasions. Examples of the reason why a affected person could select to withdraw may be for household or private causes, work associated points or issues to the coronavirus pandemic.

On Slide 18, we define the strong set of extra knowledge that shall be generated in coming quarters. We anticipate high line readouts for SURPASS-3 and SURPASS-5 within the first quarter and SURPASS-2 by Q2. We additionally anticipate first half readouts for SURPASS-J mono and SURPASS-J combo or Japan monotherapy and security add on research. The gating issue for world submission is the completion of SURPASS-4, with a present estimate of mid 2021. However that would fluctuate relying on occasion fee. A examine completion is contingent on accruing a pre-specified variety of cardiovascular occasions.

We even have an ongoing cardiovascular consequence trial to help a possible CV indication. SURPASS-CVOT. The primary Kind 2 diabetes CV consequence trial towards an energetic competitor with a CV profit. Whereas contingent on occasion fee, we anticipate the 12,500 affected person trial to learn out by 2025. For the broader tirzepatide improvement program, we look ahead to initiating three new weight problems research in 2021 for the SURMOUNT Section 3 weight problems program. We be aware that SURMOUNT-1 is projected to learn out in 2022.

As well as, I am happy to announce that subsequent 12 months can even begin summit HFpEF, the Section 3 examine in sufferers with weight problems and coronary heart failure with preserved ejection fraction, including a possible fifth indication to the tirzepatide improvement program. We’re excited to be closing the 12 months with these two excessive profile knowledge readouts, glorious examples of progress from inside and exterior innovation.

We started 2020 including lebrikizumab to our Section 3 pipeline by the acquisition of Dermira. And we’re closing the 12 months with right this moment’s announcement of the acquisition of Prevail Therapeutics, bolstering our preclinical and early part efforts. As we construct out new modalities in our analysis efforts, this deal provides one other promising space of drug discovery and improvement for Lilly by making a gene remedy program that shall be anchored by Prevail’s portfolio of scientific and preclinical gene therapies throughout Parkinson’s illness, frontotemporal dementia, ALS, Alzheimer’s and different neurodegenerative problems. As well as, we imagine this acquisition will carry important know-how and extremely expert groups to reinforce present experience at Lily.

We’re inspired by the pipeline progress we have made in 2020 throughout all of our therapeutic areas. We look ahead to carrying that momentum into subsequent 12 months. Whereas I will not describe every of the potential occasions listed on Slide 19, I might spotlight the next key 2021 occasions. Section 3 initiations together with abemaciclib for HR optimistic HER2-positive early breast most cancers, LOXO-305 and MCL and CLL, and tirzepatide weight problems and HFpEF. Section 3 and different key knowledge disclosures together with baricitinib for alopecia areata and lupus, mirikizumab for ulcerative colitis and lebrikizumab for atopic dermatitis. Donanemab and zagotenemab in Alzheimer’s illness, empagliflozin for HFpEF and tirzepatide SURPASS, 2, 3, 4 and 5 in Kind 2 diabetes. Detailed knowledge disclosures from the SURPASS program and Section 1 knowledge from our oral SERD, regulatory submissions for Sintilimab on our COVID-19 neutralizing antibody mixture remedy for tirzepatide for Kind 2 diabetes.

And potential regulatory choices for empagliflozin for HFrEF abemaciclib for top danger HR optimistic HER2-negative early breast most cancers. They’re sitting in for atopic dermatitis and tanezumab in average to extreme osteoarthritis ache. We look ahead to protecting you up to date on our progress on these key occasions all through the approaching 12 months.

Now I am going to flip the decision again over to Dave for closing remarks.

Dave Ricks

Thanks, Dan. Transferring to Slide 20, let me sum up our outlook for 2021. We anticipate to ship robust double-digit income development. Internet of COVID-19 therapies this interprets to roughly 10% development. As our key development merchandise proceed to scale and ship double-digit quantity development.

We’ll proceed to develop margins with non-GAAP working margin projected to enhance by roughly 200 foundation factors versus 2020. As we drive uptake of recent medicines and scale present ones inside our present business footprint. For R&D, we have now plenty of significant knowledge readouts all year long. Anticipate regulatory motion on a number of key NILEX. We look ahead to submitting our COVID-19 mixture remedy and can provoke the LOXO-305 Section 3 program.

In early part improvement, we have now plenty of potential first-in-class or best-in-class molecules with potential proof-of-concept readouts throughout our portfolio. Yesterday we raised the dividend by 15% for the third straight 12 months, reinforcing our confidence and the outlook of the enterprise and its robust money circulate technology throughout this outstanding sustained interval of productiveness and development.

We’ll proceed to allocate capital job alternatives which drive the longer term development of Lilly, whereas returning extra capital to our shareholders. Lilly fulfilled its goal in 2020 in new and profound methods. We entered 2021 emboldened by the teachings we have now discovered from the pandemic. The agility and persistence we have now displayed and the data that we’re supported by one of many freshest portfolios within the trade, with extra thrilling knowledge readouts and innovation on the best way.

We’ve a outstanding alternative earlier than us. And we’re privileged to work every day to ship extraordinary worth to our shareholders, our clients, our workers, and our communities.

I’ll now flip it again over to Sara to average our Q&A session.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dave. We might wish to take questions from as many callers as doable. So we ask that you just restrict your questions to 2 right into a single query with two elements. Cynthia, please present the directions for the Q&A session after which we’re prepared for the primary caller.

Query-and-Reply Session


[Operator Instructions] Our first query will come from the road of Chris Schott with JPMorgan. And your line is open.

Chris Schott

Nice. Thanks a lot for the questions. Sure, only for me. I assume first a bit extra element on the affect from the 340b revised program you’ve gotten a particularly how massive is the spend as a p.c of your corporation. I simply wish to be certain that it is clear on the affect that restricted distributions having on outcomes. So perhaps simply bridge, the Lotus mid single-digit worth erosion in the uswith the profit you are seeing right here. Simply wish to be certain that I understood these feedback. After which my second query was a product query on Taltz. This appears to be a product the place we at all times have this type of steadiness of quantity, development versus pricing headwinds to construct entry.

So on 2021, just a bit bit extra clear on the magnitude of pricing headwind, means to consider right here is one thing that is meaningfully better than the general portfolio or just a bit bit worse. After which wanting long-term, we’ll attain a degree as we glance as much as ’22 and past the place pricing turns into much less of a headwind for this franchise. We will take into consideration quantity development as perhaps a greater proxy for total gross sales development. Thanks a lot.

Sara Smith

Dave Ricks

Thanks, Chris. We’ll go to Josh for each of these questions.

Josh Smiley

Hello, Chris, thanks, On 340b, sure, so what we have stated is a: 2% to three% enchancment on underlying worth as a perform of the change we’re making in 2021. As we have talked about in different settings, that is — it is a messy a part of our section. In order that’s an estimate at this level. And we’ll monitor that through the 12 months 340b, what we have stated is after we look throughout our complete section combine, about 10% of our companies in authorities associated segments apart from Medicaid and 340 beats been the most important a part of that and the quickest development driver. In order that’s the way you get on the numbers, we’re seeing advantages within the fourth quarter from this variation. So actually, we’re simply projecting these ahead into 2021.

After all, it’s variable, I imply, the sufferers who’re being submitted for these rebates, after all, we have now to see what occurs with them. As we have stated in different settings as effectively, they do not sometimes get any profit from these rebates, however we’ll must see how they type of migrate by the system and in any other case, however I feel at this level, assuming a 2% to three% worth profit in at one-time by worth profit in 2021 is an inexpensive place to begin. For Taltz, sure, I feel what we’ve seen over the previous couple of years as you understand we launched behind [indiscernible] and we’re at a big drawback perspective, each by way of relative to the TNS after which on a comparative foundation relative to [indiscernible] over the previous couple of years with upgrades, we I feel I’ve moved to a place the place we’re in a extra favorable entry place. So I feel going ahead, we must always anticipate to see the conventional dynamics play out, by way of pricing dynamics every payer will look to make choices on an annual or each few 12 months foundation. So we’ll proceed, I feel, to have the ups and downs that include that. However I feel we really feel actually good about beginning 2021 in a a lot better place from an entry perspective, in order that, physicians can prescribe Taltz and sufferers can get it with out going by almost as many steps or prior authorizations as they’ve had traditionally.

Josh Smiley

Thanks, Josh. Subsequent caller please.


Thanks. We’ll undergo the road of Tim Anderson with Wolfe Analysis. And your line is open.

Tim Anderson

Thanks. Query on tirzepatide. So SURPASS-1 leads to getting — sufferers attending to that A1c degree of degree of 5.7 or beneath, which is euglycemia, you gave the vary for what you noticed in that trial. It is surprisingly exhausting to seek out printed like-for-like knowledge with different compounds. So perhaps you possibly can discuss what you understand, on that entrance? After which, you understand, how strong was this fantastic factor? Particularly was it, one thing that was pre specified since you anticipated you may present a giant profit. And is it a pre-specified endpoint in subsequent trials. And in these subsequent trials, I am guessing due to the upper baseline traits on each weight and blood sugar, you can see this profit, average. I am simply attempting to determine if that is actual business differentiation. And we’re beginning to see an vital suggestion that this might be a really completely different kind of product, or whether or not that preliminary discovering was a bit bit spurious.

Sara Smith

Okay. We’ll go to Mike Mason for that query.

Mike Mason

Thanks, Tim for the query. And clearly that was an important end result for us in a finish level that we did specify beforehand. In the event you take a look at treating diabetes, Kind 2 diabetes you — the holy grail is can I’ve — can I get folks to succeed in regular A1c with out hypoglycemia. Actually have not seen merchandise earlier than there have the ability to method that. With insulins, with a small therapeutic window, you’ve gotten the danger of hypoglycemia. After which with different Kind 2 brokers, we have by no means had a drug that is been highly effective sufficient to essentially get all the way down to regular A1c. I feel the perfect knowledge I’ve seen is from our Section 2 tirzepatide research, through which we did head-to-head versus [indiscernible], we confirmed a 2% of individuals returning to the conventional A1c versus [indiscernible] trial over 40% for the 15 milligram dose.

So I do suppose it is a important, milestone and the remedy of Kind 2 diabetes. However we’re excited concerning the alternative that this could present the folks dwelling with Kind 2 diabetes, sometimes, on this early stage inhabitants, folks do deal with the failure with merchandise [indiscernible] are going to fail, we hope that this may now give us the flexibility to play extra offence and truly deal with to success. So we’re enthusiastic about this. Because it pertains to SURPASS-2 to five, we’re excited to see what percept like I can do when longer research with people who find themselves longer period with diabetes, and we’ll see how that measure works out for individuals who have later stage diabetes, however have been very impressed and really thrilled with the outcomes from SURPASS-1.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Mike. Subsequent caller please.


We’ll go to the road of Andrew Baum with Citi, and your line is open.

Andrew Baum

Thanks. Two questions, please. Firstly, selecting up on the 340b dialogue May you speak to and I do know that pricing is confidential, and it is solely restricted to non-Medicare sufferers. However might you give us some sense of the delta to the listing worth between specialist merchandise, oncology merchandise, for instance, like CDK4/6 and the first care merchandise for diabetes, I am simply attempting to consider the magnitude, the advantages wanting on the future at Verzenio, and LOXO-305 assuming it will get permitted. Given the significance of these two medicine, and you consider the enterprise and I apologize I am listening to my bill there I am pausing between sentences. After which second, simply mixed with the [indiscernible] for LOXO-305, and if that’s the case what magnitude it’s? Many thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Andrew. We’ll go to Josh for the primary query and Jake for the second query on 305.

Josh Smiley

Thanks. Thanks, Andrew. On the distinction between listing worth and web worth throughout our portfolio, simply to remind you that, we do report on the portfolio degree in our built-in report our complete unfold. And for 2019 that was it was 43%. So we — the distinction between our listing and what we truly achieved at web worth of 43% was the online worth quantity. Now, if we glance throughout the portfolio, that unfold tends to occur in a pair alternative ways. First, for all of our merchandise so longer they know the later they’re of their lifecycle, the extra unfold there may be, as a perform of presidency, impose penalties on worth will increase above inflation and aggressive dynamics. The second piece, then, after all, is the place nearly all of the value the place nearly all of the quantity is. So in our merchandise in diabetes, the place the primary section is business managed care, we have a tendency to offer aggressive reductions in that setting and also you see an even bigger unfold in merchandise that are typically extra in Half B, or in much less dynamic courses, you see much less so great distance of claiming I feel should you take a look at our oncology merchandise, we are inclined to have a a lot nearer alignment, significantly the newer merchandise a lot nearer alignment between listing and web and far [indiscernible] to the 340b impacts.

Jacob Van Naarden

Effectively the 340b affect — Andrew, the 340b affect is successfully Medicaid. I imply, that is what the value calculation is. So it is the identical concept. If in case you have an extended life cycle product that has important reductions in business settings, you get to a giant unfold between lower than what you get in your authorities settings. So you may see that for certain in diabetes merchandise. You do not see that in oncology merchandise to any massive diploma. Sorry.

Dave Ricks

There is a query for Dan I feel as effectively.

Sara Smith

Dan, I feel we’ll go to Jake for LOXO-305.

Jacob Van Naarden

Certain, Andrew. Your query, I imagine is about financial residuals on the 305 program to [indiscernible] and the reply is, there are none.

Tim Anderson


Sara Smith

Thanks, Jake. Subsequent caller please.


Subsequent we are going to go to line of Terence Flynn with Goldman Sachs, and your line is open.

Terence Flynn

… … progress this 12 months. Two for me, I used to be simply questioning if perhaps Mike, you can share your perspective on business positioning of chairs tirzepatide primarily based on the preliminary Section 3 knowledge, and any particulars on the facility and assumptions of the face to face trial versus some? After which one other query for both Dan or Jake on LOXO-305. Past the extra security knowledge, what are the important thing excellent questions right here for the asset? And are you searching for breakthrough remedy designation? Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Terrance. We’ll go to Mike Mason for the primary query on tirzepatide urge for food, after which Jake on the query for LOXO-305.

Mike Mason

Sure, good query on tirzepatide. It is a great business and affected person centered downside to resolve with the outcomes that we noticed. I feel for us, it comes again to proper now that Kind 2 diabetes is handled to fail. And so sometimes, you utilize generic orals, after which branded orals that you understand are going to not get folks to regular A1c. And so I feel, for — what we see what tirzepatide is the flexibility to essentially reset expectations, and reset these again to probably usually, when see. And so we’re excited concerning the choice, we predict this is a chance to not solely present good AIc and weight reduction, but additionally actually, actually helped the general metabolic well being of these dwelling with Kind 2 diabetes. So we’re very excited concerning the place of that product. Because it goes to the powering, I am going to flip that over to Dan to reply any questions on the powering of the [indiscernible] examine?

Dan Skovronsky

All proper. Certain, Mike. I’ll simply leap and naturally it is adequately powered. And what we noticed on this first readout solely reinforces our confidence and our potential to have a profitable examine within the head-to-head.

Sara Smith

I feel we are able to go to Jake for the query on LOXO-305.

Jacob Van Naarden

Certain. So on the primary a part of the query about type of what are the important thing excellent questions on the info entrance for this system of the asset. It turns I feel, you’ve highlighted security, that is an vital one, clearly, as sufferers are handled longer, we are going to naturally accumulate extra hostile occasions, as a result of that is simply the character of what occurs within the context of a scientific trial. I feel, the character of what these hostile occasions are, their grade, etcetera, I feel shall be vital for us to comply with over time. Clearly, we be ok with what we have seen thus far. However the period of comply with up stay considerably restricted. To that very same level, although, I’d say, period of advocacy is one other excellent query that solely time will inform. Once more, we be ok with the place we stand right this moment. However we’re restricted by merely how lengthy we have had the flexibility to comply with sufferers from once they’re enrolled. So we study extra every single day in that context. I feel the final piece is simply the character of the place the asset, or the place the drug will create probably the most profit for sufferers. And I feel, figuring out what we all know right this moment, we really feel superb concerning the medicine place within the put up covalent BTK setting and clearly, we’re standing up randomized trials to essentially show that. However we be ok with its dwelling there. Within the long-term, I feel in, as an instance first line CLO, the place we will run a head-to-head trial towards the brutnib, I feel that is a a lot riskier place to essentially lean into, clearly, we really feel it is an vital query to ask. And we predict our knowledge up to now have generated the flexibility to even ask that query. And, frankly, we like the thought of operating, which is why we’re doing it, but it surely’s a a lot riskier proposition. Your second query round breakthrough remedy designation, we do not actually remark publicly on the ins and outs of our regulatory conversations, so I am unable to actually remark.

Jacob Van Naarden

Thanks, Jake. Thanks, Terrance in your questions. Subsequent caller please.

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Subsequent, we are going to go to the road of Carter Gould with Barclays. And your line is open.

Carter Gould

Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the questions. A pair extra on unlock so 305 and congrats on the info. I assume, in mild of you simply do commentary there. Jake. Are you able to perhaps assist characterize type of your ambitions and constructing out the HemOnc franchise. I imply, there’s only a few type of single asset HemOnc franchises. Plus area and minus 2 to what lengthen you view this as type of a foundational piece you possibly can construct round. After which we’re going to be getting, I assume the [indiscernible] head-to-head towards IMBRUVICA within the not too distant future, that examine took virtually 6 years, I assume to finish. Is {that a} truthful expectation as we take into consideration that, your face to face examine? Or is there one thing inventive you are able to do utilizing minimal residual illness probably shorten that timeline? Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Carter. Oh, go forward, Jake.

Jacob Van Naarden

Sorry, and the primary query, we like having 305 as an vital asset within the portfolio. Clearly, it will be the corporate’s first foray into hematologic malignancies. We strive to not make portfolio choices strictly round type of the character of what we have now right this moment. Clearly, if we are able to advance new candidates which have applicability in hematologic malignancies, and that is clearly a pleasant boon to the general portfolio. And as we glance externally, it is one other axis of our analysis, however finally each product has to face by itself as being significant for sufferers. And so we nonetheless apply that very same degree of rigor no matter the truth that we have now three or 5 now. I feel three or 5 has the flexibility to be a significant product for sufferers and for the corporate, no matter what the remainder of the hematologic portfolio appears like.

And the second query concerning the calibration of IMBRUVICA head examine, I feel, with out commenting instantly on how lengthy our examine will take, I am going to say that, primary, our examine will take a very long time as a result of the pure historical past of sufferers handled with ibrutinib within the first line setting is nice. And so in an occasion pushed development free survival examine, you’d must accumulate a sure variety of occasions, and that may take a very long time to occur. I feel the factor to level out that is vital is that the calibration of ibrutinib examine is a non inferiority design. Whereas we shall be testing a superiority query and so the statistical burdens on the examine are simply completely different. For these two various kinds of trial designs. I feel, as you understand, the primary worth proposition of medication like ibrutinib and [indiscernible] are largely round security. Happily, 305 has an rising security profile that we predict appears superb and really aggressive. However the primary proposition of 305 is efficacy.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Jake, and thanks, Carter, in your questions. subsequent caller, please.


We’ll Go to the road of Seamus Fernandez with Guggenheim. And your line is open.

Seamus Fernandez

Nice. Thanks for the query. So only a couple right here. Hoping to get a way from Dan, of what you are hoping to see in [indiscernible] examine outcomes, which I imagine are anticipated to be introduced within the first quarter of subsequent 12 months. And what advances this system and what occurs if this system doesn’t present a sign? Are you presumably out of the gamma like beta area at that time.

The second query is, is on fact urge for food, actually to see this half path in weight problems sufferers examine. Are you able to simply give us a bit little bit of a way of the scientific underpinnings there. But additionally, is there probably a sign of profit that you just anticipate seeing a suggestion that you’re seeing in a few of these early comply with up from a few of your different program. On the cardiovascular entrance, after which perhaps should you might simply give us a fast replace in your oral surgeon? anticipating some medical assembly displays? How’s that? The surgeon sort of shaping up out of your view because the best-in-class, poor mixture with abemaciclib. Thanks a lot.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Seamus. We’ll go to Dan for all three of these?

Dan Skovronsky

Okay. Thanks, Jamie. So I am going to begin with the Nano [indiscernible]. You are proper that we will have this trailblazer trial learn out. In early 2021, did not matter after all, is our amyloid decreasing drug we have seen in Section 1 trials that it may possibly clear amyloid plaques to a level that hadn’t beforehand been seen each by way of the depth and rapidity of plaque clearance.

What are we going to be on the lookout for within the examine outcomes? Effectively, after all, it is a examine designed to exhibit efficacy. So we’ll be on the lookout for enhancements on cognitive and useful outcomes as effectively. And Alzheimer’s research, after all, we’ll take a look at biomarker knowledge, I’d be shocked if we do not see the anticipated impact on amyloid plaque larix. However we’ll additionally search for if we if we have now a optimistic scientific efficacy sign, we can even be on the lookout for confirmatory alerts on different biomarkers, together with tau. That is the again of your knowledge. I feel if we see plaque clearing, however we do not see a slowing of cognitive decline, that might be the disappointing outcomes. After which we might suppose exhausting about whether or not or not plaque claring on this inhabitants is one thing price persevering with to pursue, given the power of this molecule and testing a plaque ladder mechanism. I doubt we might proceed to go ahead.

On tirzepatide path, I feel you are ought to asking why, why pursue this? I feel there’s, effectively, to start with, we all know rather a lot about the advantages of tirzepatide, together with, after all, prominently weight reduction. We additionally know the optimistic results of weight reduction and cardiovascular outcomes, significantly in sufferers with coronary heart failure with preserved ejection fraction. So primarily based on that we are able to type of extrapolate results as we would anticipate to see. I feel you have been asking, instantly we have seen outcomes in HFpEF sufferers with a few of our different trials with tirzepatide that gave us confidence right here, the reply, that is no. That is primarily based on extrapolation from different mechanisms plus the pharmacology and in addition the physiology that we have seen in tirzepatide. Possibly earlier than we go to oral surd, which I’ll give Jake a chance to speak about, perhaps Mike, do you’ve gotten something so as to add on HFpEF?

Mike Mason

No, no, Dan, I feel you answered the query effectively. We’re excited concerning the potential to check than as vital inhabitants with, which is a large unmet want within the market.

Dave Ricks

Proper. I feel it additionally ties into our pondering round weight problems generally, which isn’t solely is driving down weight, vital for sufferers, it is crucial for his or her medical outcomes. And as you deal with and even remedy weight problems, we anticipate to see rather a lot much less morbidity and mortality from numerous illnesses, together with coronary heart failure. Jake or oral, third.

Dave Ricks

Certain. So we’ve not talked rather a lot publicly within the context of information, scientific knowledge, round our oral third. Its progressing properly in a Section 1 trial. I think about we’ll be ready to speak extra about it in calendar ’21. Clearly, it is a aggressive area. And so we’re monitoring what our rivals are doing as effectively. However we’re proud of what we’re seeing thus far. I feel, strategically, one of many causes we bought into this area to start with was due to abemaciclib on the premise that proudly owning a CDK4/6 inhibitor and an oral surgeon, the identical portfolio could be strategically precious. And that was circa a 12 months, 12 months and a half in the past, I feel that concept has solely grow to be extra profound with the outcomes of abemaciclib within the advert pushed setting. It is the one CDK4/6 inhibitor with profit in that setting. And, you understand, now having that strategic asset within the portfolio with [indiscernible] has allowed us to suppose barely in another way about simply our place within the aggressive dynamic. So clearly, the scientific knowledge efficacy and security for oral surgeon needs to be on par with our competitors regardless, however assuming that that performs out. We like our total strategic aggressive positioning within the area. However I feel we’ll be ready to speak extra particularly sooner or later subsequent 12 months, maybe with some scientific knowledge to talk to as effectively.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Jake, and thanks Seamus in your questions from right here ahead, please restrict your questions to 1, so we are able to attempt to get to as many callers as doable earlier than 10 am. Subsequent caller please.


Thanks. We’ll go to the road of Louise Chen with Cantor. And your line is open.

Louise Chen

Hello, thanks for taking my query right here. So I am simply curious what the chance for reversible BTK are in first line after which how do you consider your head-to-head research and first line CLL/SLL as remedy paradigms might probably change with this CAPTIVATE examine? Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Louise. We’ll go to Jake for that.

Jacob Van Naarden

Certain. So I feel the chance is considerably easy. The chance in first line is to enhance outcomes for sufferers relative to present brokers, specifically ibrutinib. And so, we — while you take a look at different areas of focused oncology, medicine which have significant remedy impact on the identical goal pathway in sufferers who’ve relapsed on that very same pathway, one line prior these medicine are inclined to have extra pronounced profit towards that very same preliminary agent compared head-to-head. And in order that that is one of many many causes that we predict it is vital to ask this query. But it surely’s a really dangerous scientific trial for a wide range of causes. So once more, I feel the pure, particularly near-term dwelling for the agent for sufferers is in sufferers who’ve relapsed on these medicine. And I feel that setting will persist, frankly, no matter how the primary line trials find yourself. However we predict the primary line trials are vital inquiries to ask. Your referenced the CAPTIVATE examine, time restricted remedy, clearly time restricted remedy of BTK, BCL 2 mixtures, and even simply BCL to CD20 mixtures are an vital rising development for the sector. We’re embracing that development within the context of the relapse setting with one in every of our two CLL research. And so it is a — one thing we’re paying shut consideration to, we predict it’s totally actual. It might not finally be for all sufferers. However we predict it is an vital development to comply with. That having been stated, you understand, if we will check the query of whether or not or not we have now the perfect BTK inhibitor within the first line setting, the suitable approach to do this is with steady monotherapy head-to-head.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Jake. Thanks, Louise for the query. Subsequent caller, please.


We’ll go to the road of the Vamil Divan with Mizuho Securities, and your line is open.

Vamil Divan

Nice. Thanks a lot for taking my query. So only a query revolves round baricitinib. And also you talked about the approval for atopic derm, one of many key sights for subsequent 12 months. So simply questioning how you consider that chance for that drug and it have a [indiscernible] security profile, the sort of security issues on the jack class, and in addition perhaps the aggressive knowledge format, as a result of critically, I feel their system stacks up. And perhaps additionally simply the alternatives are U.S versus ex U.S, given [indiscernible] rather a lot broader uptake exterior the usto date going to have within the U.S. Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Vamil. We’ll go to Ilya for that query.

Ilya Yuffa

Certain, sure. We see bear sitting clearly the info across the atopic dermatitis, an space the place we see important alternative and unmet want and in addition below handled. What we see from a [indiscernible] standpoint, we do imagine it has security profile by way of we clearly bought approval for atopic dermatitis in Europe and we’re awaiting to get approval within the U.S. We do see important alternative each U.S and outdoors of the U.S. We do see that the general profile each from an advocacy standpoint, and security is a determinant round dermatology to be — to make the most of [indiscernible] for atopic dermatitis. We see [indiscernible] an vital function there. And it is also one the place we have seen important enchancment and our success in dermatology as a complete, particularly with Taltz and so we see the business execution serving to our potential to make [indiscernible] with atopic dermatitis. After which additionally furthering our work in dermatology with our [indiscernible] knowledge there as effectively. So we do see each atopic dermatitis and the [indiscernible] including to the business alternative for [indiscernible].

Sara Smith

Thanks, Ilya. Thanks, Vamil in your query. Subsequent caller please.


We’ll go to the road of Geoff Meacham with Financial institution of America. And your line is open.

Geoff Meacham

Hey, guys. Thanks rather a lot for the query. So Dave, or for Dan, I assume on the Prevail deal introduced right this moment, might you converse to the way you guys view gene remedy becoming into the portfolio? And perhaps what went into the necessity to add it? And will you finally develop the know-how from neurology into different areas resembling HemOnc. Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Geoff. We’ll go to Dave for that query.

Dave Ricks

Sure, I’ll begin on the technique facet, perhaps Dan needs to touch upon the portability of Prevail particular. It might be 910 know-how to different settings. However we after all, continuously scan the panorama for brand new modalities that would grow to be vital in growing medicine in our core therapeutic areas. After all, neuro degeneration for us has been core for a very long time, though we’re we’re ready knowledge to help drug submissions and approval. It is an space of eager curiosity given our historical past in neuroscience. That should not be a shock and with rising details about gene remedy given its a privileged compartment, the character of promote turnover, etcetera. The and the effectively characterised, monogenic illnesses that exists there, we turned fairly curious about firms like Prevail.

We did a complete take a look at the sector, we like the place they’re, GVA was a really effectively profile goal. And so they’re within the lead utilizing extra confirmed methods for gene remedy. So it appears like entry level. I would not anticipate this to be our final effort in gene remedy, somewhat, our first 12 months after all, we have now the gene enhancing transaction earlier within the quarter.

And we do see with inside neuroscience, their technology reveals a platform to go after plenty of vital targets. And perhaps Dan can touch upon past neurodegenerative situations. Sure after all, as they stated, CNS simply makes a [indiscernible] Lily give on our experience right here additionally immune privileged, states that neuron cell turnover. However then most significantly, we have now extremely validated targets with no different illness modifying therapies once more. In order that’s why makes loads of sense. Let’s begin right here with [indiscernible] progress in CNS. After all, gene remedy shall be used for a wide range of completely different illnesses throughout completely different organ methods. However that is our beginning place after which over time, we constructed an air.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dave and Dan. Thanks Geoff for you query. Subsequent caller please?


We’ll go to the road of Steve Scala with Cowen. Your line is open.

Steve Scala

Thanks. In 2021, should you take the midpoint of the COVID antibodies gross sales vary of $1 billion to $2 billion, and also you apply a 50% web revenue margin that equals $0.80 to $0.85 per share. If that’s within the ballpark, that suggests earnings per share in 2021 shall be about flat within the absence of that contribution. This isn’t a criticism. Maybe it is only a sensible transfer by administration to spend opportunistically, however I simply wish to perceive if that is how we must always take a look at it. And I am solely enable one query, I might wish to make a remark, I’m assuming disclosure coverage would have required Lily to state within the launch if pancreatitis was seen in SURPASS-1. Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Steve. We’ll go to Josh for that query.

Josh Smiley

Steve, I feel should you take a look at the ranges that we’re projecting right here, should you pull out and what we stated at first of the decision, we have someplace between like $0.30 and $0.85 attributed to COVID. I feel so should you pull that out, after which take a look at midpoint to midpoint 2020 with out COVID to 2021 with out COVID, we see double-digit, mid double-digit forms of EPS development. So I feel perhaps it is which elements the place you take a look at it within the vary and what you are attributing to COVID versus in any other case, however I feel we’re very clear there that we see actually good underlying enterprise development, once more, in all probability 10% level — midpoint to midpoint, high line development, margin enlargement at excluding COVID, that will get you double-digit EPS development, and we predict that is harbinger of how the following 4 or 5 years will search for us.

Sara Smith

Okay, thanks. And rapidly to Dan, if you wish to touch upon Steve’s commentary about pancreatitis.

Dan Skovronsky

Sure, I don’t know whether or not that is one thing we might disclose or not. However I can simply inform you now that we didn’t suppose it’s subsequent trial.

Steve Scala


Sara Smith

Thanks, Dan, and Josh. Thanks, Steve, in your questions. Subsequent caller please.


We’ll go to line of Ronny Gal with Bernstein and your line is open.

Ronny Gal

Good morning. Congratulations on a really fantastic 12 months. Fast query across the assumptions round biosimilars in each the basal and the quick appearing market in 2021, how’d you issue these into tips?

Sara Smith

Thanks, Ronny. We’ll go to Mike Mason for that query.

Mike Mason

Thanks Ronny for the query. We do not see any incremental affect for biosimilars in the usmarket. They’ve not been in a position to get entry on payer formularies. And due to that, we do not see an affect in 2021. Thanks.

Dan Skovronsky

Possibly simply to leap in, simply to remind everybody that beginning January 1 Half D $35. Cap program kicks in, which could have the impact of reinforcing model utilization in Half D. So, affordability improves fairly dramatically for numerous Individuals and possibly goes to the incumbents in that setting?

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dave and Mike, and thanks Ronny for the query. Subsequent caller please.


We’ll go to the road of David Risinger with Morgan Stanley, and your line is open.

David Risinger

Sure, thanks very a lot. So my query is for Josh. Josh, might you simply return to a bit bit larger degree by way of web worth prospects in 2021? So might you simply recap for the full firm, what you anticipate the proportion affect of web worth shall be in 2021? After which present what do you anticipate for the usand ex-U.S? After which additionally, should you might touch upon 2022. So ought to we anticipate the proportion adjustments in worth to weaken, which means worsen in 2022, since you will not have a recurring good thing about the adjustments to 340b such that the usnet worth stress could be worse in 2022. Any colour past 2021 would even be useful. Thanks.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dave. We’ll go to Josh for this.

Josh Smiley

Sure. Thanks, Dave. I hoped simply to be accomplished with 2021 and transfer on. So first, to be particular about our 2021 steerage. I feel after we look on a worldwide foundation, we would see mid single-digit worth declines. We’ll see in all probability highest in China as a perform of NRDL we talked about. We might anticipate to produce other merchandise compete and be added NRDL, we see a big worth hit there greater than compensated by quantity. So it might be in all probability primary. Japan, we might see modest worth declines as a perform of the conventional pricing setting there and possibly fairly secure in Europe. Steady which means mid single-digit decline. So I feel exterior the U.S., you set all that collectively, we’ll see within the mid single digits. Within the U.S., our underlying development, as we have been speaking about for a few years might be mid single-digit. We do get the advantage of the 340b type of reset, that might carry us all the way down to low single digits within the U.S. You place all of that collectively, I feel on a worldwide foundation, once more, you are still in all probability within the mid single-digit decline, highest in China, decrease within the U.S. I feel the development then for ’20 to 2022, once more, in all probability are from a aggressive perspective, in all probability nonetheless in that very same type of mid single-digit vary. After all, there’s rather a lot that can occur between now and 2022 on the legislative administrative facet within the U.S. I feel we have been proud of the aggressive dynamics for our merchandise. I do not see something basically altering by way of developments for 2022, apart from what we might even see on the construction facet.

David Risinger


Sara Smith

Thanks, Josh and thanks Dave in your query. Subsequent caller, please.


We’ll go to the road of Greg Gilbert with Truist Safety, and your line is open.

Greg Gilbert

Thanks. Dave, given your new function as Board Chair at Pharma, I hoped you can weigh on whether or not the trade can help significant reform regardless of some firms being extra anxious about Half D versus others extra anxious about Half B and different variations that you just’re in all probability extra conscious of than I’m. It looks like a golden alternative for the trade to get one thing significant accomplished and what must be a fairly centrist regime. Thanks.

Dave Ricks

Hey, Greg. Thanks for the query. I feel the best way you characterize that query, that is how we see it. Each Lilly and I feel nearly all of Pharma Board members that the backdrop for enhancing affected person affordability whereas sustaining robust progressive setting and the bottom of the trade that has led us to such a profitable 12 months responding the pandemic is pretty much as good as it could get. And the stress continues to construct on out of pocket, pay on the pump prices. So I are inclined to agree. Getting alignment on the — at all times is determined by the particulars between the 2 events. The setup within the Senate will matter for that tactically after which between firms. So specifics matter. It is exhausting to say, that can occur or that may’t occur. However what I can inform you is the spirit is to attempt to get to sure, to maneuver ahead concepts, whether or not they be administrative or legislative that may assist out of pocket affordability for Individuals and recognizing the second, perhaps now to do this.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dave. Thanks, Greg for the query. Subsequent caller please.


We’ll go to the road of Umer Raffat with Evercore ISI, and your line is open.

Umer Raffat

Hello, thanks a lot for taking my questions. First on the covid mAb, Jake might you remind us how a lot of that $1 billion to $2 billion is stockpiling versus common? And I requested as a result of there is a chance of oral buyer changing into out there in January. And Dan on SURPASS-1, it appears like there was a baseline imbalance on weight, perhaps placebo within the excessive 70s and [indiscernible] urge for food arms in mid to excessive 80s by our math. This would not have mattered a lot on placebo adjusted weight reduction. Placebo would not transfer a lot. However I do surprise, was there an imbalance on A1c as effectively? And if Jake might give us a way for 4 hours by a efficiency standing zero versus one, thanks.

Sara Smith

Okay. And we’ll go to Josh for the primary query, Dan, for the second query after which Jake for the ultimate query.

Josh Smiley

Hello, Umer. On the monoclonal antibodies, what we’re actually projecting, is it so no stockpiling assume they’re the $1 billion to $2 billion vary that we have now for 2021? Would there’s way more rapid demand for the advantages of these merchandise and could be encompassed in that quantity. So what we’re actually is simply what are the acquisition agreements that we have now in place right this moment, and what’s more likely to come within the early a part of subsequent 12 months. So we’re not assuming any sort of long-term inventory piling or something in that regard.

Sara Smith

Okay. Thanks. We’ll go to Dan for the query on tirzepatide.

Dan Skovronsky

Certain. So that you’re asking concerning the baseline traits of the placebo group versus the three drug teams. We did not see imbalances. They have been effectively balanced for demographics and scientific traits, together with A1c and weight or BMI for placebo versus drug.

Sara Smith

Thanks, Dan, after which Jake for LOXO-305.

Jacob Van Naarden

Sure, I feel the query was about variations in exercise primarily based on efficiency knowledge. [Indiscernible] not introduced as we carry out, so I don’t know the reply. However given the prior remedy and the extent of prior remedy is probably going correlated with efficiency standing, and we did not see an impact on exercise within the context of various mixtures of prior remedy. I feel that is a considerably of a learn by in your query, however not a direct reply, as a result of I merely haven’t got the info.

Sara Smith

Okay, thanks, Josh, Dan, and Jake, and thanks Umer in your questions. That exhausts the queue, and we’ll return to Dave to shut out the decision.

Dave Ricks

Okay. Thanks, Sara for internet hosting right this moment. We admire your participation in right this moment’s name and also you’re curious about Eli Lilly and Firm. As you’ve got heard right this moment, we have made significant progress in 2020 and are dedicated to a different 12 months of development, margin enlargement and development of our innovation primarily based technique in 2021. Thanks once more, for dialing in everybody. Please comply with up with the IR crew in case you have questions we did not handle on right this moment’s name. Have a terrific vacation and a terrific vacation interval and a protected time together with your households. Thanks.


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